Garry k wrote:
I am back for a day or 2 and will resume my Brutal Critique

Warning - Only for the Brave ( but i do recognize true talent and skill )

Do you often work with model agencies? I posted a thread asking for specific feedback about getting agency test shoots here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/985022

By the way, I did not see Parts 1 - 4 on the forum when I searched your profile. I assume that means you had to create a new profile to atone for each part. Brutal indeed.

Certain Exposures wrote:

Do you often work with model agencies? I posted a thread asking for specific feedback about getting agency test shoots here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/985022

By the way, I did not see Parts 1 - 4 on the forum when I searched your profile. I assume that means you had to create a new profile to atone for each part. Brutal indeed.

Yes i generally work with Modelling Agencies now

I have been a member of MM for about 20 years now - So all the work you see here is old /historic . But it sort of documents my early years . The first photos I posted on MM were of my 17 year old Model friend Coco Rocha

All the previous Brutal threads are very old and there is probably no way to dig them up

If You would like to know anything more about starting to shoot with agencies ..Please message me and tell me where you are at with your photography and where you are located

Garry k wrote:
Yes i generally work with Modelling Agencies now

I have been a member of MM for about 20 years now - So all the work you see here is old /historic . But it sort of documents my early years . The first photos I posted on MM were of my 17 year old Model friend Coco Rocha

All the previous Brutal threads are very old and there is probably no way to dig them up

If You would like to know anything more about starting to shoot with agencies ..Please message me and tell me where you are at with your photography and where you are located

Thanks, I sent you a friend request so I can message you.

Certain Exposures wrote:
Thanks, I sent you a friend request so I can message you.

Ok - I was not aware that people now needed to be friends here to talk . ( i have a a around 800 friend requests that i havent responded to ) Guess i have been away too long

I cant seem to  find you in the pile sorry

Email me please at Garrykphoto@hotmail.com

or contact me on Facebook under my full name

Richard Blackstone wrote:
Do your worst Garry

Your work is ....

Sweet and I am Jelly

I like your BW Photo of the Model on the Sand dune the best

Chris Macan wrote:
Critique away my friend,
I'm interested in your thoughts.

You should try to be more like Mr Blackstone ( above )

Better Models , Better Composition , Better Lighting , Better Posing etc

Garry k wrote:

Your work is ....

Sweet and I am Jelly

I like your BW Photo of the Model on the Sand dune the best

Cheers Gary, but I thought you were going to go hard on me mate

Garry k wrote:

You should try to be more like Mr Blackstone ( above )

Better Models , Better Composition , Better Lighting , Better Posing etc

Thank you Garry, I appreciate your thoughts.

I'll give Richard's work further study and learn from it.
Although we seem to have fairly different target markets and end goals for our work.

Chris Macan wrote:

Thank you Garry, I appreciate your thoughts.

I'll give Richard's work further study and learn from it.
Although we seem to have fairly different target markets and end goals for our work.

as a developing Photographer here about 15 years ago I sought critique on everything I posted

And I am forever grateful that Great Photographers like Neil Snape took the time to look at my work and offer feedback

I consider myself a mediocre Photographer now ( but better than average in my local market )

And I am fine with that

However if I were ever to move to some place with better natural lighting ( like Paris ) I might be re inspired

Richard Blackstone wrote:

Cheers Gary, but I thought you were going to go hard on me mate

Hmmmm

Well there are about 25 photos you could cull to make your overall portfolio stronger in my opinion

Garry k wrote:

Hmmmm

Well there are about 25 photos you could cull to make your overall portfolio stronger in my opinion

Now we're getting somewhere, do tell.

Richard Blackstone wrote:

Now we're getting somewhere, do tell.

Ok … I will get to it later today

Richard Blackstone wrote:

Now we're getting somewhere, do tell.

Ok … I will get to it later today

Richard Blackstone wrote:

Now we're getting somewhere, do tell.

ok Mr Blackstone

These are the photos that I think should be culled because they are bland , uninteresting or derivative

From the most recent to the oldest

11,14,23,30,32,50,56,,60,61,62,76, 84,96108,,124,125

Only about 16

And f that Blonde Frizzy Haired Model is Fredau .. The more of her the better

Garry k wrote:

ok Mr Blackstone

These are the photos that I think should be culled because they are bland , uninteresting or derivative

From the most recent to the oldest

11,14,23,30,32,50,56,,60,61,62,76, 84,96108,,124,125

Only about 16

And f that Blonde Frizzy Haired Model is Fredau .. The more of her the better

Thank you Garry, I much appreciate the critical eye.

Chris Macan wrote:
Thank you Garry, I appreciate your thoughts.

I'll give Richard's work further study and learn from it.
Although we seem to have fairly different target markets and end goals for our work.

Garry k wrote:
as a developing Photographer here about 15 years ago I sought critique on everything I posted

And I am forever grateful that Great Photographers like Neil Snape took the time to look at my work and offer feedback

I consider myself a mediocre Photographer now ( but better than average in my local market )

And I am fine with that

However if I were ever to move to some place with better natural lighting ( like Paris ) I might be re inspired

Thanks Garry,
I'm kinda fully baked as an artist,
as in my style, shooting approach, and desired end product isn't likely to significantly change.
Likewise my model selection isn't likely to significantly change as it is part of what I do.

That said, I am fully open to bettering my lighting and composition,
So perusing Richards work is helpful is seeing how a commercial photographer does it.
Yes, I do believe I can learn a thing or six from that.

Chris Macan wrote:

Thanks Garry,
I'm kinda fully baked as an artist,
as in my style, shooting approach, and desired end product isn't likely to significantly change.
Likewise my model selection isn't likely to significantly change as it is part of what I do.

That said, I am fully open to bettering my lighting and composition,
So perusing Richards work is helpful is seeing how a commercial photographer does it.
Yes, I do believe I can learn a thing or six from that.

Have to confess that living on the other side of the continent i really did not have much of an idea as to where you were located

But looking at the map I determined that you were close to Philly

I scanned through various MM photographers in your area and wasnt too impressed until i came to this guy

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/3150903/viewall


good ideas , good composition , good posing , good models etc ( but he only shoots in black and white )

maybe contact him and ask if you can assist him ?

Certain Exposures wrote:
This is where the concept of feedback gets interesting to me.

Chris' work is nothing like Darryl's. If Chris' portfolio was a person and Darryl's was a person, they'd never date. At all.

I could see myself learning how to build a portfolio to get agency collaborations by working with Darryl. However, I get the feeling Chris would waste his time going there when he'd rather be experimenting with Aerochrome and peel-apart out in a field somewhere.

Why should Chris be more like Darryl? Well, unless he wants to. A similar style photographer as Chris with "better lighting, better models, better composition" would be a more practical comparison to me. Would you like that photographer's work though?

Perhaps

I guess it depends on Photographers Goals

I guess I should have said something to him like find your inspiration / desired outcome from photographers in your part of the world

and try to learn from them

Certain Exposures wrote:
This is where the concept of feedback gets interesting to me.

Chris' work is nothing like Darryl's. If Chris' portfolio was a person and Darryl's was a person, they'd never date. At all.

I could see myself learning how to build a portfolio to get agency collaborations by working with Darryl. However, I get the feeling Chris would waste his time going there when he'd rather be experimenting with Aerochrome and peel-apart out in a field somewhere.

Why should Chris be more like Darryl? Well, unless he wants to. A similar style photographer as Chris with "better lighting, better models, better composition" would be a more practical comparison to me. Would you like that photographer's work though?

You had asked me earlier about how to work with Modelling Agencies

Its both simple and hard

Learn what the Modelling Agencies in your area are looking for in terms Model Photographs ( there are regional differences ) and try to achieve that

Also doesnt hurt to try and build some sort of real world / social connections with your local agencies

This could start with You becoming part of your Citys Fashion Scene ( ie Fashion Shows ) network and go from there

Images by MR wrote:
Shoot ...

You have been on this site 17 years

I have critiqued You before

I dont see that your work has changed any

Certain Exposures wrote:
This is where the concept of feedback gets interesting to me.

Chris' work is nothing like Darryl's. If Chris' portfolio was a person and Darryl's was a person, they'd never date. At all.

I could see myself learning how to build a portfolio to get agency collaborations by working with Darryl. However, I get the feeling Chris would waste his time going there when he'd rather be experimenting with Aerochrome and peel-apart out in a field somewhere.

Why should Chris be more like Darryl? Well, unless he wants to. A similar style photographer as Chris with "better lighting, better models, better composition" would be a more practical comparison to me. Would you like that photographer's work though?

Garry k wrote:
Perhaps

I guess it depends on Photographers Goals

I guess I should have said something to him like find your inspiration / desired outcome from photographers in your part of the world

and try to learn from them

This is part of the fun,
You are both right.

Garry is right in pointing out what he thinks I could do to improve my work,
and providing examples of photographers doing it the way he likes. (advertising and fashion style)
(also, thank you for the Darryl link. He does lovely work and as an artist in the same city I should know his work)

and Certain Exposures is correct in pointing out that advertising and fashion photographers aren't my peers,
and that style isn't really what I am looking to do with my work. (although I can absolutely learn from it)
And yes, my last shoot was polaroid and pinhole out in a field....
https://pinholeday.org/gallery/2025/ind … hStr=macan

Experimental and art photographers are more up my alley.
these are the local/regional photographers that I follow and whom I consider my "peers".

https://www.stephanieslate.com

https://www.heatherpalecek.com

https://chrisperegoy.com/

Chris Macan wrote:

Certain Exposures wrote:
This is where the concept of feedback gets interesting to me.

Chris' work is nothing like Darryl's. If Chris' portfolio was a person and Darryl's was a person, they'd never date. At all.

I could see myself learning how to build a portfolio to get agency collaborations by working with Darryl. However, I get the feeling Chris would waste his time going there when he'd rather be experimenting with Aerochrome and peel-apart out in a field somewhere.

Why should Chris be more like Darryl? Well, unless he wants to. A similar style photographer as Chris with "better lighting, better models, better composition" would be a more practical comparison to me. Would you like that photographer's work though?

This is part of the fun,
You are both right.

Garry is right in pointing out what he thinks I could do to improve my work,
and providing examples of photographers doing it the way he likes. (advertising and fashion style)
(also, thank you for the Darryl link. He does lovely work and as an artist in the same city I should know his work)

and Certain Exposures is correct in pointing out that advertising and fashion photographers aren't my peers,
and that style isn't really what I am looking to do with my work. (although I can absolutely learn from it)
And yes, my last shoot was polaroid and pinhole out in a field....
https://pinholeday.org/gallery/2025/ind … hStr=macan

Experimental and art photographers are more up my alley.
these are the local/regional photographers that I follow and whom I consider my "peers".

https://www.stephanieslate.com

https://www.heatherpalecek.com

https://chrisperegoy.com/

................


Very Different Methods and Styles 

But I like them all

D L Photo wrote:

u r the last person who should be critiquing anybody

the next thing you are going to try and tell me is that you think you are a better photographer than I am

Certain Exposures wrote:

Do you often work with model agencies? I posted a thread asking for specific feedback about getting agency test shoots here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/985022

By the way, I did not see Parts 1 - 4 on the forum when I searched your profile. I assume that means you had to create a new profile to atone for each part. Brutal indeed.

Not really.. They are old threads and I think they just dropped off

I don’t feel I need to atone for anything I said in them

D L Photo wrote:

tf are u talking about...you're not even a photographer...you're an AI slop mf.....u r garbage in every respect

Well if You took a moment to check you would see that my my portfolio of Photos here were all shot between 2006 and 2018

My IG portfolio of photographs ( which there are is a link to on my first page ) represents my photography from 2016 to present . I remain active as a Photographer

It probably hasnt occurred to You that some people can do more than one thing in terms of Image creation

And since you spent energy digging up this old thread of mine - I am going to assume that you are wanting me to critique your photography . Which I will be doing very soon

But i have to ask you first - Where does all of this anger of yours come from . I mean calling  people "garbage " and such . and over such minor things . Can't be too healthy